HGH TO REGROW CARTILAGE

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 02/16/2016 07:35 AM

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VECHESLAV

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 01/31/2015 07:45 AM

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HIGHLANDER1

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 Hi Nirad,

 

How is your knees doing after the treatments of IAGH?

Im from South Africa and in need of IAGH for both knees (Im bone on bone..)

What was the name of the Growth Hormone used on you and dosages etc. (I would like to try source it here in South Africa- hopefully

Many Thanks

Mark

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 01/31/2015 07:41 AM

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HIGHLANDER1

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 Hi JWH,

Im from South Africa and am in need of IAGH Cartilage regenartion for both my knees (Im bone on bone...)

What was the name of the growth hormone and dosages used on you..? (I would like to source it here in RSA)

Has it still been effective for you to date..?

Many thanks,

Mark

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 01/31/2015 07:31 AM

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HIGHLANDER1

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 Hi Jen,

I am from South Africa and in need of IAGH cartilage regenartion in both knees, please can you tell me the name of the grown hormone and dosage that assisted you.

Are you still going strong with the IAGH?

Many thanks,

Mark

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 01/31/2015 07:26 AM

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HIGHLANDER1

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 Hi Mikey,

 

Glad to hear that IAGH working for you.

Im from South Africa and in much need of IAGH Cartilage regenartion for both knees.

Do you know the name of the growth hormone used on you and dosage (or type.?)

Is it still holding up?

Many thanks,

Mark

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 01/31/2015 07:22 AM

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HIGHLANDER1

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 Hi Mary Ann,

Im from South Africa and in much need of Cartilage regeneration in both knees , Do you know what the name of the Grouth Hormone that was used on you by Dr Dunn and the Dosage..?? (Or Type..?)

And has it been effective still to date..??

Many thanks,

Mark

 

 

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 01/17/2012 04:54 PM

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george1406

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hi, G smeltzer , noticed yr comment on the IAGH method - can you send me some more nfo , who to contact for this method/treatment.
Kind regards
George
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 12/10/2009 09:32 AM

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gsnayar

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Cytotron is CE certified and now available in the Netherlands. India has many centres offering Rotational Field Quantum Magnetic Resonance (RFQMR) therapy with this device. Over 1500 patients must have undergone this therapy by now since its introduction in 2004. Radio and subradio frequencies in the range of 1 KHz to 10 MHz are used along with intermittent magnetic fields to cause resonance of protons contained in the water content of tissues and improve the trans membrane potentials of the cells thus initiating the signalling pathways to help in the production of heat shock proteins which in turn promotes mitosis. Regeneration of articular cartilage has been demonstrated by MRI after a course of this treatment given for 30 min - 1 hour daily for 21 consecutive days. The patient has pain relief without any medications in about a week to ten days after starting therapy. The regeneration of cartilage continues for months even after the therapy is completed. An overview of the technology is available at www.scalenesiapacific.com. GS Nayar Bangalore, India

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 12/08/2009 04:11 PM

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I have known DR. Dunn for 3 years. I was a distance runner, marathon runner and race for 35 years until April 2005 when I developed midfoot pain in my left foot. I had the foot xrayed, cortesone shots and finally 2 MRI's and a CTSCAN. The tests showed about 85% of the cartilage missing from between the talus and navicular bone. I was unable to walk without severe pain and even lying in bed at night with a sheet on my foot was painful. I was taking appr. 1600mg of ibuprofin a day for some relief from the pain. I visited several Orthopedic surgeons in Vermont and one at Dartmouth Hitchcock to no avail. No one had any suggestions for improving my condition. I found Dr. Dunn online, called and went thru extensive bloodwork and review of my MRI's and CTSCANS before DR. Dunn would accept me as a patient. I started treatment with Dr. Dunn in early May 2006 and had to travel from Vermont to Miami(via Hartford,CT) on crutches weekly for 10 weeks for injections. I then went once in January and May 2007 for follow up to my initial treatment. Not one penny was pais for by my HMO(experimental treatment) and I estimate that my treatment and travel to date has cost me in excess of $12000. The results.....I am now able to walk 5 miles at a fast pace and am generally without any pain in my foot! Before treatment, I could't get up from my desk at work and take a step without pain. I have new cartilage between the 2 bones and am 95% free of pain! Is the IAGH treatment 100% effective. Most likely not but I am living proof of now it can improve one's life and let one get back to exercise. As far as Dr. Dunn goes, I have never met a more compassionate, humble physician! He is a wonderful man and cares deeply for his patients. I endorse him to anyone who has had an issue like mine. Bruce W Gasque West Wardsboro, Vermont

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 06/14/2008 03:05 PM

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jennifer5

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hi,i am new to this but, i am really interested in finding anyone who has gone to Dr.Farshehian too. my husband has degenerative disc disease and is in constant pain. we sent my husband's MRI results to Dr. Farshehian.they said he was a canidate and would be in less pain after 3 injections. it was notthe plalet rich plasma injections though.if he could improve 20 % it would be worth it but, i would like to talk with anyone who has been to him too and had good results.
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 06/12/2008 05:34 PM

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tennk

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I actually tried this, and it didn't work for me. Lots of money down the drain, that was over 3 years ago and I am still in pain. I did come across a new treatment. Cytotron, it is India, but more are opening. Good luck getting one in US, I really think that government cares more that big business gets their money at everybody elses cost. I am trying to get the word out on this, you would have to go to the website and check it out, Cytotron.com, Cytotrontreatment.com, and if you go to youtube and search cytotron there is a message on there.I've been contacting many news sites by email to see if they will investigate this machine. Would appreciate it if others could to, or if you have better idea on how to get medical/fda/government attention to this. I don't think people understand how much pain arthritisjoint injuries can be til you have it. Cancer gets much more attention. I even had a relative, who by the why is a cancer survivor, I swear when she asks how I am she asks how my little problem is. She is not in pain everyday.Good luck to all, Dawn
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 05/30/2008 06:17 PM

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AndyA

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am new to the forum.In summary.....I am from the UK, I am 45 years old, married, and a father of 2 boys aged 15&11.I have had 5 surgeries on my left knee (no cartilage at all for 20 years) and 2 scopes on my right knee. I have have been told I need a knee replacement for the last 5 years and have been seeing the pain management doctors on maybe 10 occasions. I have tried the full range of creams, potions from the net, NSAID's, pain meds, patches. Both my knees hurt a lot, and now my right hip!It has taken me ages to read all the information on this thread.Does HGH work?Can you obtain it and inject it yourself?Does it get injected into the knee?Can people post actual success stories so I can study further.Many ThanksAndy
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 05/07/2008 12:13 AM

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Georges

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I called The Regenerative center of Medicine (Dr. Farschian) in florida, and they seem to be working with PRP or Platelet Rich Plasma and injects that to knee joint, Has anybody tried that?
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 10/11/2007 11:30 PM

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stancor

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What is the current status of your knees? I assume that you had this done with Dr Alan Dunn. How long was the recovery/therapy period?Stan
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 05/14/2007 01:04 PM

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According to Dr. Juilo Fernandes, an orthopaedic research specialist down in Montreal, this procedure is worthless. He's the last orthopaedic research specialist that went into my knee, he had this to say about this procedure:After asking about HGH and prolotherapy treatments and if it could help me directly or even indirectly like if it could help with the pain, he said that the chondrocyte just didn’t have the receptors for the HGH. That HGH could grow anything but cartilage. I then asked if it could help with the pain or if it could help regenerate pseudo cartilage, he said he didn’t know. I then offered him to take a look at some of the references I had found, but he refused. He also added that HGH sides effect were too much of a risk. I imagine taking anti-inflammatory pills everyday for the rest of my life is better.On the other hand, he was so closed minded, just like all the OSs I saw in the past for that matter. After asking about 3 different treatments with more than enough references and real life treated cases at hand, he sadly said “I’m not familiar with those” or “I don’t believe in that so I won’t help you”. When asked why not, he simply replied that he wouldn’t help, again and again.So all in all, I’m looking at nothing else than scrapping and drilling every two years or so until I turn 40ish, I’m 30 with 7 AS so far. I don’t want to imagine what it will be like when I turn 50, ouch! ;o)


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 01/28/2007 12:36 PM

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james2344

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Does anyone have a comprehensive list of Docs in the US that perform the IAGH procedure?
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 10/17/2006 10:11 PM

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nirad123

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Hey Mike717. I am in Regina Sk. Could you tell me where in Canada and by whom you had your IAGH procedure? I had Dr. Dunn's and liked him buy he is quite far away.Could people here please stick to some facts please? The bashing it a little tiring.
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 08/07/2006 10:32 AM

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mikey717

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Jack Not really---------------Dr. Dunn injects the HGH into the joint (As joint fluid)--------Dr. Farshchian injects the Combination of substances in such a high volume that the presure inside the joint forces the entire joint tendons/ligaments ,cartiledge etc. to absorb the contents of the injection. Prolotherapy on the other hand involves peppering the tendons and ligaments with dextrose or in the case on Dr. Hauser HGH if need be.Mike
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 08/07/2006 10:23 AM

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mikey717

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Hi I've had HGH------------------But from a Canadian Doctor------Went form a Zero to a 5-----I will be going back for more. Dr. Dunn is a Pioneer---No one is perfect ----but ---he's leading the way.HGH WorksFYI Dr. Farshchian has great results-----and is now using Magnesium (yes Magnesium) Dom\n't ask me about the science----because I don't know. There are several Prolotherapy Doctors who are now using HGH----Dr. Hauser in Chicago and Dr. Darrow in LA------------HGH Works !
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 08/07/2006 10:17 AM

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mikey717

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Congratulations Valerie You've become the posterchild for High Ticket Orthopediac Surgery !Atta Girl------------Keep letting Chop !
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 08/07/2006 10:14 AM

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mikey717

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Dooby Your vision on this topic is 20-20--------------------------------Dr. Dunn ---and Dr. Farshchian threaten that income stream----------------Its all about Greed , Power, and money--------------Now doesn't that make it all American/Canadian ? Lets keep them in the Dark so we can keep manipulating them.
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 08/07/2006 10:08 AM

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mikey717

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Valerie When did you become a SurgeonIts great to finally meet a TRUE Medical EXPERT !
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 08/07/2006 10:07 AM

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mikey717

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WoW Super EGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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 08/07/2006 09:56 AM

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mikey717

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Justia Just some quick feedback-------If only you Physicians of Godlike qualities could come down to earth for just a brief moment-----(But don't worry the sun would still shine under your feet) and realize the the entire Orthopedic Science lives in the Dark Ages and basically with minor modifications is still hung up on turn of the century techniques which cost thousands of dollars per procedure---and if that's not enough you go out of your way to suppress anyone like Dr. Dunn who tries something outside of your Narrow minded Box ! FYI I had some Dr.s here in Canada try this procedure -------------and post Injection one Year PLUS ! My knee is much Improved-----and I was a stage 4 scheduled for TKR. I can walk again Upstairs--and ----am even beginning to train Taekwondo (modified)--Something I could not even conceive of two years ago. I just hope to live to see the day when ego driven , greedy Doctors like yourself are driven out of work by advanced science !
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 07/22/2006 06:45 PM

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You said you had successfully growth hormone treatment. Who was the doctor who treated you? Since my searching only doc. doing injections of hormone for cartilage is Dr. Dunn.since 15 years fighting with knee.what problems you had?Have you ever had surgery?Do your x-rays show increase of room in the joint?Thanks Guido
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 07/22/2006 06:38 PM

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yager

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since 15 years fighting with knee.Verifying if it is worthwhile to fly to Miami (from Rome, Italy).could you help me?how old are you?what problems you had?Have you ever had surgery?Did you have range of motion of the leg reduced? (not able to completely flex the leg to 180 degree)More boring question: could you send in digital x-rays previous and after the treatment showing increased distances in the joint ?Thanks Guido
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 07/22/2006 06:35 PM

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yager

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since 15 years fighting with knee.Verifying if it is worthwhile to fly to Miami (from Rome, Italy).could you help me?how old are you?what problems you had?Have you ever had surgery?Did you have range of motion of the leg reduced? (not able to completely flex the leg to 180 degree)More boring question: could you send in digital x-rays previous and after the treatment showing increased distances in the joint Thanks Guido
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 07/22/2006 06:32 PM

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yager

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Hi, since 15 years fighting with knee.Verifying if it is worthwhile to fly to Miami (from Rome, Italy).could you help me?how old are you?what problems you had?Have you ever had surgery?Did you have range of motion of the leg reduced? (not able to completely flex the leg to 180 degree)
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 05/25/2006 11:46 PM

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jolsonc

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HOW IS YOUR KNEE DOING,NOW--DID YOU GET SINGLE ,DOUBLE OR TRIPLE INJECTIONS OF GH--THANK YOU
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 02/22/2006 08:58 PM

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mlewis

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Ron,Who is your physician in Albuquerque NM? Please post the name and contact website and/or phone #.I live in California and would like to not have to travel to Florida.Thank you,mlewis
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 02/04/2006 12:25 AM

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nirad123

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I had Dr Dunn's procedure as well. I can attest to the fact that he does seem to genuinely care about his patients. When I first started to check into the procedure I was immediately told by his office that I may not qualify and there were a comprehensive list of tests and an MRI that needed to be completed.My first visit with him was probably an hour in which he checked the angles of my legs, examined my walk and explained the procedure in detail. Definitely not an orthopedic surgery factory.I am Canadian and have had approximately 5 prior knee surgeries and never had a surgeon spend that much time with me. I know many Americans perceive the Canadian system to be superior but I did not find that to be the case at all.I am to have my followup soon to see the final result for the amount of growth if any but the knee is definitely feeling better. Whether from the initial surgery or the injections I don't know at this point.Darin Brailean
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 02/03/2006 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by: IAGH1790You have to photograph X-rays, make diagrams, write, edit and re-edit - it is a monumental task. Perhaps you would volunteer several weeks of your time to help me publish several articles. You would certainly learn a lot from being on the cutting edge of medicine. Or would you be happy to whine and complain?
For whatever it's worth I would be willing to volunteer my time for such a project. That sounds absolutely fascinating.
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 02/03/2006 12:50 AM

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I still contend that if the top orthopedic surgeons in this country like Stone & Steadmam do not advocate HGH, it is not the scientific method of choice and buyer beware!
Let me tell you my story about Dr. Steadman. I went to Dr. Steadman to remove plica filaments. Dr. Steadman told me there was an 80% chance I would be able to do what I always wanted--run a marathon. Post surgery I can barely walk. I asked for a copy of my surgery video--it was conveniently lost. They screwed me up pretty bad and didn't have the decency to admit it. I have all sorts of scar tissue in my knee. It sounds like captain crunch on steroids with every step.So you want to call Steadman a top orthopedic surgeon? I have not had a worse experience with a medical clinic. When I went for a follow up visit they were mad at me for having so many problems--PROBLEMS THEY CAUSED! Steadman MAY be a good choice for athletes, but if you're not an athlete look out. The Steadman-Hawkins clinic is a surgical mill. They have surgeries every 30 minutes like an amusement park ride. If you are not an athlete you likely won't get the care you need. I told them I was willing to pay extra to get better service, but they didn't seem to care.As such I am extremely hesitant to trust anything Dr. Steadman has to say about anything. I'm having a hard time trusting any doctors at all after my experience in Vail.
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This isn't o say it is harmful, or does not work in some cases - placebo is a very powerful thing.
Before I try anything again I will have before and after MRI's taken to prove what works and what doesn't.The bottom line is I have Condromalacia patella. I have arthritic cartilage on the back of the knee cap.The only procedures I can find are microfracture and IAGH to help me. Steadman makes a living doing microfractures. Dunn makes a living doing IAGH. It doesn't surprise me they don't respect each other's techniques. Are there any other procedures for helping arthritic cartilage in the knee? I'm about 30 years old and feel like I have 50 year old knees--please help me.
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 12/12/2005 05:47 PM

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Arthritis destroyed the cartilage in one ankle, and my options was replacement surgery or else to try an experimental treatment. I am too young for ankle replacement (I'm 34 years), because I am not interested in replacing the replacement over the course of my life. Therefore, I tried the experimental HgH treatment. I am a current patient of Dr. Dunn and a former patient of Dr. Farschian. I tried Dr. Farschian's Hgh treatment first, back in 2004. His injections include Hgh with dextrose and prolotherapy (i.e. oxygen injections). Prolotherapy is extremely painful, plus it felt harmful to my joint. And, it wasn't working. I quit Farschian, and discovered Dr. Dunn. Dr. Dunn injects only Hgh, and had me on crutches. The reason for crutches is to not squash the stem cells while the juvenile cartilage cells are forming. Crutches made a big difference for my success. I am now walking again, with cartilage, and have such gratitude for Dr. Dunn! The new cartilage is holding strong as I now put weight on my joint. The pain which continues is caused by active rheumatoid arthritis, not from being bone-on-bone. I have had arthritis since I was a baby (Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis). I have seen more doctors than I care to remember. In terms of bedside manner, personal investment and character, I have seen the best and the worst of doctors. I hereby declare that Dr. Dunn is the 2nd best doctor I have ever known and Dr. Farschian the absolute worst. I realize that Dr. Dunn is coming off as an Ego-maniac on this discussion board, and this surprises me. Dr. Dunn is a genuine doctor. He truly cares that his patients live pain-free. He is gentle, kind and compassionate. He really doesn’t have an ego. He has a great idea (HgH injections), he is very smart about it and has invested a great deal of his heart and soul into developing a treatment that works well for people.On the other hand, Dr. Farschian is a creep, a chauvinist and cattle-herds patients in and out of his office. I found him impassionate, manipulative, dishonest and inconsiderate. For example, he was unwilling to answer my questions and told me I should “trust the doctor”! He clearly makes bank off of his practice and all of the high-tech gadgetry in his office shows it. But, high-tech does not mean that the man cares about his patients. I don’t want to go into details, but I had an awful experience with Dr. Farschian. I wouldn't wish him upon my worst enemy. Let me give a clear example that distinguishes the 2 doctors. Prior to starting and throughout treatment, Dr. Dunn will have you do labs, get a mammogram, make sure you are on the right medicines, etc. He is thorough and is not is a rush to get you into his office. In comparison, Dr. Farschian doesn’t screen for anything, including whether or not you have cancer! (Please, don’t start Hgh injections if you have cancer).


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 12/07/2005 01:03 PM

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No one here has mentioned Dr. Hauser (in Chicago). He does the hgh injections but as a modified prolotherapy treatment. He is the co-author of books on this subject. My doctor (who is an OD) also does prolotherapy and started the hgh enhancement for osteoarthritis as well. In fact he treated his own knee with these injections (a torn miniscus) and healed it! He has been treating osteoarthtitis (severe) in my right hip and I have had some significant improvement (I have been biking and swimming all this time).
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 08/23/2005 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by: JustitiaSo I looked at Dr. Dunn's site as well as Dr. Al Farshchian's. Dr. Dunn claims publications to support his research and then refers the reader to see below. The only "written" item he has is a "monograph" which means nothing. You can type up you own hypothesis and print it out on your printer and it is a monograph. A real publication is something published in a journal that is subject to peer review scrutiny..It is clear Dr. Dunn, despite all his claims to being the discoverer of HGH as means to regrow cartiledge, was never able to publish a single paper on it. His web site is embarrasing. He went to my alma mater, Cornell University, (where I got my Ph.D.)and he has apparantly reasonably good training. But these invited lectures--they are easy to come by. And I am so suspicious of his Johns-Hopkins claims, which is right down the street from my university. Ironically, I have also been a Visiting Professor for 2 years at the University of Ghent in Belgium --one year as a Fulbright Scholar; Ghent is one of the places he claims to have presented 4 papers. But I am fairly familiar with the acceptance policy of conferences in Europe--you pay your fees and your paper(s) is (are) accepted for presentation. It would not be too hard to check out exactly the level of discernment used in allowing these presentations. It is too wierd that he did nothing for 20 years and then suddenly started to speak about this? And he is really using slight of hand when he states that what he is doing is going to be included in "future" FDA studies. That means absolutely nothing. All the reason not to trust him. Anyone who misleads or obfuscates information about their accomplishments can't be trusted. Even though his web-site is more professionally put together than the other doctor's, he inspires as little confidence for me. How do we find a doctor who really is knowledgeable and trustworthy about HGH. Is there any reliable knowledge out there? Are there any publications in peer-reviewed journals that can be cited? Justitia
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 08/09/2005 10:01 AM

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wilsonrob

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Mikey,Have you had Dunn's injections? What part of knee?ThanksRob
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 08/08/2005 02:00 PM

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mikey717

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Very Well Put ! Dr. Dunn is Brilliant ----but----has a humungous EGO ! His self promotion is rediculus. He always does surgery before he injects the IAGH--and--you are off your feet for8-12 weeks--therefore needing months upon months of rehab to get the tendons and ligaments working right again. I sent a friend who needed a knee replacement done to www.arthritisusa.net ----and--after one month and 3 injections his knee has gone from a 1 (nothing left) to a 5 and Dr. F says he will plateau aty 3 months and his knee should be at least a 7 or possibility 8 on the function scale ! By the way all the whose who of Pro Sports (past and present) go to Dr. F (WHY ?--Duh!) In closing my friends bill was a small fraction of what Dr. Dunn's office quoted him ! And yes nutricels are part of his treatment.
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 05/18/2005 11:54 AM

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rdmccur

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I have never seen any studies that show hgh causes cancer. I'm not a physician but have researched this quite a bit. Please cite some research that shows what your husband has claimed. Several doctors throughout the US have used iagh injections for cartilage repair/regeneration. Dr Dunn reports impressive success as well as some of the others (I won't name). It would appear to me that many orthopedic surgeons might feel threatened by the succcess of iagh injections since it removes the need for joint replacement(in many cases, if that is their specialty.
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 05/18/2005 12:08 AM

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It seems as though there are several Anonymous authors, including some HGH docs! I am jsut now reading the back postings. KiwiValerie.
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